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I have to agree with many of the comments made so far, especially the one that characterizes the women in Shakespearean plays. In this particular play, Troilus and Cressida, women are portrayed as either a whore, crazy or hardly referred to at all in the text.

Andromache does not appear in the play until act V.  She is the wife of the greatest Trojan warrior, Hector. “Hath nothing been but shape and forms of slaughter” (5.3.12). In act V she implores Hector not to fight because she dreamed about his death. After a few lines we never hear from her again.

Cassandra is the Trojan princess and prophetess. She is portrayed as a crazy woman yet she warns her brothers of the fall of Troy, “Cry, cry! Troy burns, or else let Helen go” (2.2.112). She does not reappear until the final act, when she too warns Hector of his death. The Trojans fail to listen to her words and they lose their hero.

Helen is cause of the war between the Trojans and the Greek. She is represented as a whore in this play because she willingly leaves Menelaus for Paris. Diomedes calls both men fools to fight and destroy for her and for their glory. (4.1.54-56)

Cressida is also depicted as whore. At first she thinks highly of Hector then Pandarus opens her eyes to Troilus. She gives in to his seduction as she will give in to Diomedes. In act IV Ulysses degrades Cressida by stating that everyone must kiss her to welcome her. I believe this act was unfair to Cressida because there is nothing else she could have done about the kisses. Yet she is deemed as loose by Ulysses and he himself does not kiss her.

I think I need to put in my two cents about Thersites because if anyone else has noticed, the one person who is considered a “fool” is actually the only one who thinks rationally. The Greek commanders are so engulfed in their own egos and their desire to be true heroes that their actions fall extremely short.

In Act 2, we are introduced to Thersites whom we’ve discussed in class to be someone with some type of psychological defect and because of this, he’s allowed to say whatever he thinks without repercussions. Throughout Act 2, the Greek commanders, especially Ajax, belittle Thersites constantly. Even though Hector was completely against keeping Helen, he finally decided that she should stay because “for ’tis a cause that hath no mean dependence/ Upon our joint and several dignities.” (2.2. 192-193) His deranged sense of honor (deranged because how can it be “honorable” to keep another’s man’s wife) and egotistical tendencies keep him from actually thinking rationally.

At the beginning of 2.3, Thersites becomes the voice of reason explaining the commanders’ misguided decisions. He says, “Or, rather, the Neapolitan bone-ache,/ for that methinks, is the curse depending on those that war for a placket.” (2.3. 19-21) One can interpret this as Thersites scolding the commanders’ for continuing a war based on mostly sexual desires, which was the role of women during that time.

This irony can also extend to Cassandra who prophesied the demise of Troy if Helen was not returned. Cassandra’s brothers think she’s insane and do not heed to her warnings. Again, someone who is considered “defective” in the play is the one who actually becomes the voice of reason.

In 2800 most of us studied Homer, and I’m not sure if I hold this opinion alone, but while reading the Iliad, I was a big fan of Hector. In class the other day we discussed Hector’s speeches in Act 2, and I’m sure many of us were put off by Hector’s seemingly thoughtless change of opinion. Homer’s Hector does give in to the power of war, and lets the war destroy his family, however Hector seems much less a hero, as presented by Shakespeare. I can’t help but wonder why Shakespeare felt this way about Hector, especially as we discussed that the English would have felt connected to the Trojans. Shakespeare does not present either side with much respect, as we see the foolishness of the Greeks who cannot work together in the war while we also see the Trojans experiencing domestic unrest. I’m curious why Shakespeare presents the war in this way.