Assignment:
Please read the two articles below and then answer the following questions in the comments section.
“When Job Hunting, It’s Who You Know that Counts,” by Brian Chappatta at Crain’s New York Business website.
“Its Who You Know…and What You Can Do for Them,” by Beth Silcox of Success magazine.
After reading these two articles, please answer the following questions in the comments section on our class blog. We will be keeping track of who answers and how well you do it — so take it seriously. Please number your responses as well so everyone knows what is being discussed. Email Hiren or myself if you have questions.
1. Why did we have you read these articles? What is the connection between the idea of networking and participation in college extra-curricular activities?
2. One of these articles talks about networking as a lifestyle, and the other focuses on the idea of referrals. Based on these articles, what is the difference?
3. Will networking and/or referrals in the post-college job market impact the social decisions you make now? Why or why not?
4. Find two clubs or organizations at Baruch College that would positively impact your post-college professional experience and list them here.
1. We had to read these articles because in the future, the career market is going to be even more difficult than it is now. Our networking skills will have to be top quality along with our business skills to get our foot in the door of an exceptional business. Through college extra-curricular activities, you meet people. Through those people, you can learn more about your major, their major, and simply explore ideas.
2. Based on these articles, one can see how some people take networking as a piece of advice that can help you get hired. On the other hand, the next article defines it as a lifestyle. The lifestyle choice shows that there’s an actual, eager interest to learn and connect to others through working careers, even after being hired. It keeps you on your feet and keeps you growing intellectually through connections.
3. Networking and/or referrals in the post-college job market will definitely impact the social decisions I make now. The more networking you do now can help boost positive referrals when it comes down to job hunting. Plus, you get to discover what job markets others are partaking in and how you can get to them as well, if one was so inclined.
4. WBMB Radio & The Ticker
1. The reason we read these two articles are getting ready for our further business career. No matter how much you have being prepared, there always much harder than you thought. Hence, know more for your long run career from now is the best way to getting used to it. Through networking you will make a lot of friend and also can know more about your old friends recent status. People change their ideas and strategies on line of college extra-curriculum. It also can help people improve their abilities by some brainstorms from networking.
2. The first one is more focus on how much advantage you get hired because of networking. Since youn know lots of people by networking, then you probably can get a good job with those people you know. However, you still need social networking as a lifestyle, even you have a pleasant job thereat. You will need to learn something new about your work; enhance your business scheme between you and another excellent person; keep your top knowledge in a professional area.
3. Networking or referrals in the post-college job market will have a significant impact on the decision I make. Because everyone knows you can’t do anything by yourself, if there is a terrific referral for you, why not accept it. You’re definitely not sure that you could find a better job by yourself in a giant hunting market where you know nobody; hence, you’d better just follow the chance that someone gives to you and appreciate it.
4. AKPsi & ECO club
1) By reading these articles, I had learned more about the working environment in some companies and had became more aware of the importance of networking in college right now. Well, participation in college extra-curricular activities will contribute a lot to our future networking.
2) The difference between the two articles is the second article teaches you how to maintain and start out a prolonged and close network while the first one just keeps talking about how networking is important for your career.
3) I thing both of the networking and referrals in the post-college job market will impact the social decision I am making right now. Just like the article had stated that most of the people a company hired usually know s someone from the company, and it’s obvious that knowing more people will enhance our chance of success in our career.
4) Alpha Kappa Psi and Beta Phi Sigma.
1. We were asked to read those articles because they gave us a better understanding of the function of our social ecology. It is always tough to start a successful road in such a competitive world; especially in place like New York. Networking is the central key toward building useful and friendly relationships for our future career and social life. Through the participation in college extra- curricular activities, it gives us a chance to build up our networking by meeting a variety of people and expand our knowledge from their individual experiences
2. The difference between networking and referrals is that one is the output of another. Through our life time, we will establish our networking by making new friends. If we build up our friendships with consideration, caring and support, those efforts will eventually reflects back on our referrals.
3. Networking and/ or referrals in the post-college job market will have a great impact on the social decisions that I make now because having a great networking in my career major will definitely help me to gain excess of important information within the field, which makes easier for my job hunting. Also, great networking brings excellent referrals which give me a step further into the industry.
4. UCLA and Ascend
Li Qu
1.The reason why we have to read these articles, I think it because we are going to enter a whole different world or life, we are going to struggle, we are going to challenge, we can’t fight alone, we need to find someone else to help us or we can help others also. Therefore we need to build up a good relationship or social circle. In order to learn how to do networking, we better to practice in the college before we get into our career.
2.The 1st article focus on how could you get from networking, a company always likes to hire someone who refers, it is just the beginning of your career. In order to make your career more stable or longer, you need to change the networking as your lifestyle.
3. The Networking and/or referrals in the post-college job market will absolutely impact the decision I make now, because the better Networking I make, the more information or friends I have within a certain field. I definitely need more reliable information to chose what kind career is the best for me, and more friends in a company would bring me more chance to be hired, mentioned in the 1st article.
4.CCF & ACE
1. We had to read these articles because we have to know what to expect in the further when we are job hunting. Also that our networking skills will be important in our business skills because is something big in the social life. Through the participation in college extra-curricular activities, it gives us the chance to know people and also to built our networking and also we have the chance to meeting that person that might help you one day.
2. One article talks about the networking as a lifestyle and the other one focuses on the idea of referrals. The differences between this two articles is that the first one talks about the way that the networking and the way you can change a business. the other one talks about the people you know already inside the business and that they are telling the boss what you can do for the company. The differences is that one talks about what you can bring to the table with out someone else telling.
3. The networking and referrals in the post-college job market will impact the decision I will make now, because with the networking is about the people you get to know and the friends you might make and like that those friends can get you a job from the inside and also the outside.
4. ECO & PSYCHOLOGY IN MOTION
1.The purpose of reading these articles where to give us a better understanding of how and why networking and participating in extra curricular activities such as clubs, are going to help us in the near future with connections to jobs, people, etc. We are faced with many challenges and bumpy roads are first weeks here in college and in order to over come them, we need to reach out of our shell and try to bring about a new person out of us in order to make our transition smoother for ourselves and others.
2. Based on the two articles, the difference between networking being a lifestyle and the idea of referrals is most of the times when you network you meet people and by your first impression people can know what your character and demeanor is made of. Through your first impression, that shows people what you bring to the table. Meanwhile, the idea of referrals is people already know what you can do and how well you can do it, through this the work you show and put in reflects how good you are referred to a company, business, etc. They both go hand in hand besides having two different concepts.
3. Will networking and/or referrals in the post-college job market impact the social decisions you make now? Definitely ! Without becoming a very social and interchanging individual with others, you are not succeeding in this college/life. You must find ways to get where you want to get and not just sit back and relax and let it come, life moves fast and with me not making moves to get where i want to be won’t get me to the top after Post-college. By the friends and staff I meet here at Baruch, ti will establish connections to those outside the campus.
4. FINANCE & ECONOMICS SOCIETY, LA UNIDAD LATINA, LAMBDA UPSILON LAMBDA
1. These articles help us by starting to realize our situation and getting ready for our future life. As a freshmen student, I should know more about the working environment and start to build up the relationships during the college. Therefore, I think that might be the purpose to do networking and participation in college extra-curricular activities. In order to learn how to do networking, I better to practice in the college before we get into our career. Through the participation in college extra-curricular activities, I could get the chance to know people and learn abilities from those people. They would be helpful for my long run career life.
2. Based on these articles, the first one shows that people take networking as a piece of advice might help you to get hired. The idea of referrals is people already know what you can do, and put in reflects how good you are referred to a company. In other hand, to establish the networking as the lifestyle will enhance you from those excellent people, and connect to others through working careers.
3. Both of the networking and referrals in the post-college job market will definitely impact the social decisions I make now. As the article had stated that more networking you do now will enhance your chance of success in our career. Also, this is the easier way to get job while you hunting the job from the job market.
4. Pre-law society & ECO
1.We were assigned to read these articles because it is necessary for us to know the importance of networking, not only for our college life but also for our “job hunting” in the future. We will meet a lot of challenge when we are seeking our career. However, networking will be valuable and very useful for us because good networking will bring us some qualified friends who will help us a lot in the future. In addition, participation in college extra-curricular activities will bring a lot of positive influence to our networking. It helps us to build strong relationships which are valuable to us.
2. Based on these articles, the first one tells about how strong networking would help you get into your career. Good relationship brings you a much better chance to get a position when you are applying for a job. However, the second article tells about why and how you could make networking as your lifestyle. It would help you to do better and better in your career when you make it your own lifestyle because people around you will help you getting more stable on your job.
3.Networking and/or referrals in the post-college job market will impact the social decisions I make now because I believe that the stronger and better networking I make in college, the more valuable information and help I will get from it. People will always be influenced by those who are around them, thus good networking is valuable for us when we are making decision about hunting jobs in our near future. We will definitely get more important information.
4.UCLA & ABC
1. I believe we were assigned this reading to enhance our knowledge on networking and job hunting. College extra-curricular activities give individuals more opportunities to widen out and connect to other people or organizations.
2. The difference between networking as a lifestyle and the idea of referrals is the way businesses go about hiring. For instance businesses that use the method of promoting products or services to new customers do so through word of mouth. Which simply means the idea of referrals depends mostly on who you know. On the other hand networking is long term process; the idea is to go about everyday like it’s a tryout. You are displaying your ability in exchange for a job opportunity.
3. Yes they will affect my social decisions I plan on making in the future because I believe hundred percent in the idea that college extra-curricular activities help and are a major part of networking.
College Basket Ball Team and Theta Phi Gamma
1. We read these articles because people have gotten the idea of communication wrong. Just like the article says it’s not about how good you are at something. It’s more about who you know. The more activities you engage yourself in the more sources you can have. I like to think of it as war, the more allies you have the higher are your chances of winning.
2. The difference is, you can either meet people or you can be beneficial to others. It’s like if you had a choice between two friends a doctor and a cashier(Regardless of personality). You would take the doctor because of the background he has. The other side is you can meet people, and if you appeal to the people you meet. They can have great benefits for you. Such as if you are starting a business and you need a professional painter. Let’s say your best friend is a painter and he agrees to paint at no charge under the demand that if he is ever in need. You will grant him a job, it saves you money and it benefits both of you.
3. Yes because it’s like experience you have to start small and work your way up. For instance if you jump right to the point it’s like reading the last sentence of the book and thinking you know the whole book. It just does not work that way. That’s why I plan on having a deeper look inside extra-curricular activities.
4. Pre-law ; Alpha Kappa Psi
1. We had to read this article because it tells us that we have to be ‘out there’ when we are studying in college and looking for a career. We have to meet, talk and socialize with other people. We cant be couch potatoes and just study all day because other people can be beneficial to us as we can be to them.
2. The difference between these articles is that one article talks about how knowing people can be beneficial to us and in the other article meeting people is a lifestyle. But in both, they share the same idea that when we meet people they can be beneficial to us.
3. Yes. If I get to know other people, then I can help them and in return they can help me hopefully. If they know an internship that are seeking the major i want to have a career in, then they can pass on the information to me and we can help watch other like that.
4. MSA and Beta Phi Sigma
1.Those articles told as about having a good relationship with others is good for our future as the first article said that refferal offers numurous advantages.
2.Those articles both mainly talking about we should get more good relationships with others. I think the networking could help us get good relationship in order to put us in a good postion by getting referral in our carrer.
3.Yes. Because more referral u have means u get more good relationships with others. Those advantages could help others know that you have more experience with social communicating.
4.Chinese club. Basketball team
1. There is no work that we can do alone. We need to cooperate. As we attend college, we are going to face lots of ‘new faces’. By networking, we can find people to cooperate. These articles tell us good relationship is the best property. By participating extra-curricular activities, we can make more relationship. Networking is just anothing word for having relationship.
2. The first article talks about networking just for benefit, how to get a job by relationship(referral). However, the second article focuses on importance of winning friends, influence from them, and how to have good relationships.
3. Sure. Both networking and referrals will give me variety informations about major field, not just major I’m interested in but also any things that I want to know, that I cannot get from books or news.
4. Finance & Economics Society and Korean Club
1. We have to read these articles because they help us to figure out that relationship and networking are very important. A better social network can bring you to a better job. Hunting for a job is not only depends on what you can do, the skill you have, also it depends on the skill of building relationship to others. As networking is very important to our career, we have to prepare during college. Through the joining of college extra-curricular activities, we can know more people and build up our social network. Maybe there is a person that will help you in your future job.
2. The first article, “When Job Hunting, It’s Who You Know that Counts”, forces more on the hired chances. It says if you have a good social network, you got more hired chances because you know more people, more referrals. The second article, “Its Who You Know…and What You Can Do for Them”, forces more on the lifestyle. According to the article, “What can I learn from this person and how can I help them?”, it means your social network can help you to learn more and do better in your job. Therefore the difference between two article is one is talking about how networking affects before you getting a job, one is talking after.
3. Networking and referrals in the post-college job market will definitely impact the social decisions I make now. Better networking can bring me a better job. Also, I can learn and gather more information for the job in my network.
4. HK Club and UCLA.
1. The reason why we are assigned to read these 2 articles is that they give us better understanding of the importance of networking and how it affects our daily life and occupation.Participation in college extra-curricular activities is one way to build up our networking through meeting new friends and learning from each other.
2.The first article focuses mainly on how networking influences our chances to get hired.The second aricle defines it as a lifestyle.It tells us the way to keep good relationships with friends.Self-serving relationships are not going to work.It’s a two way road.We have to think about what we can do for the friends while we learn from them or get some help from them.
3.Yes,both of them will impact the social decisions i make now.It’s beacause that both of them will enhance my chance of success in career.So i have to build up networking from now on .
4.Chinese club and ECO
1. Networking will be extremely important in getting the job we want when we leave college. You need to know how to network and how to make those connections work for you.Participating in extra curricular activities in college will give you practice in socializing with people and starting conversations. It can also put you in the path of people you need to know after college.
2. Networking as a lifestyle allows you to have connections everywhere in everything you do, and will allow for unexpected opportunities. When you network as a lifestyle, it can open doors you never even knew you were interested in. When you just use referrals, it can just get you into that one specific job.
3. The social decisions you make now can be some of the most important. You don’t want to wait until you need connections to try and find them. Students should make an effort to keep in touch with people they make connections with, so when they leave college they have a starting point for a good network and you don’t have to build from scratch.
4. La Unidad Latina, NY Music Industry Association
1. You had us read these articles because the articles teach us the importance of social network, which will influence our future. Participation in college extra-curricular activities is the way to build our network. We can know more people. They may help us in future.
2. Based on these articles, one of them talk social network is helpful to get a job. The other one talks networking is part of life. We need to learn to build our own network.
3. Exactly, networking and/or referrals in the post-college job market will impact the social decisions I make now because the employer wants to hire a person that he or she knows.
4. I don’t know any clubs now.
1. The reason why we should network and try to become a part of different groups is because it is difficult to get into a good job directly out of college unless you know some people.
2.The difference is that referrals may only get you the job, where the actual lifestyle can allow you to improve your position not just stay at the same level.
3. Yes they should encourage us all to try and network with different people so we have a head start once we finish college.
4. La Unidad Latina, Basketball Team
1. Reading these articles can help us to know the important of relationships with others in college and in workplace. Participation in college extra-curricular activities help us build a large networking with peoples
2. Networking as a lifestyle is about people are making friends as a lifestyle. On the other hand, focus the idea of refferals means that you go to make friends with the people who you can get benefit from them in workplace. However , the more people we know , we can have more opportunity to get a good job by the relationship with peoples.
3. They might affect the decision I made now . Because through the networking and refferals, I may find interest in other jobs and have more opportunity to get through it
4.Not decide yet
1. Why did we have you read these articles? What is the connection between the idea of networking and participation in college extra-curricular activities?
Reading these articles will help us know more about how the real business world goes. If students n Baruch were to be involved in more extra-curricular activities then their network would expand further. This wide network will help the student be a lot more successful in the future.
2. One of these articles talks about networking as a lifestyle, and the other focuses on the idea of referrals. Based on these articles, what is the difference?
Networking as a lifestyle is a person who meets people and make new friends as their job. Referrals means that a person meets other people with the idea in mind “How am I going to profit from this”. Either way i think would be a good idea since both ways have something to do with expanding one’s network.
3. Will networking and/or referrals in the post-college job market impact the social decisions you make now? Why or why not?
It definitely would. If a person is still in college and has a great network, then that student would come out of college ahead of a person who starts a network after they come out of college. It would also impress the people that a student who is still in college is already starting his/her network.
4. Find two clubs or organizations at Baruch College that would positively impact your post-college professional experience and list them here.
DSP Business Fraternity and Alpfa Organization.