I agree that women in that generations were taught to be submissive and once they marry they are like the husband’s property. It is also sad that they were only married for such a short time and she is willing to die with him.
-Sandy
This moment was very impressive description of Reiko’s feeling and operation. It is difficult thing to help her lover to finish the suicide. Meanwhile, the passage portarys lieutenant’s determination to suicide.
Although this paragraph does show the societal duties of women towards their husband, it also shows the strength and pride that Reiko takes in her position as his wife. Her action of taking the knife shows her dedication to her husband. And the silent understanding afterwords shows the mutual respect and trust between them both. Shinji’s forewarning to his wife about the possibility of suicide also has a caring undertone to it. He wants to give her the chance to be prepared and prove herself; which she does.
Yup, it’s quite pretentious to me that they want to show people that they are patriotic enough to kill themselves. And I feel like the author is over glorifying their suicides.
Sandy, it is amazing how the last thing the Lieutenant, and Reiko did together was to make love to one another. Do you think there is a correlation or a possibly theme associated with love and death in which Mishima is trying to portray?
I like your choice of scene to show simultaneity in the story. There were definitely a lot of conflicting emotions going through the character’s minds, such as the passion and death that you pointed it. The Lieutenant has a lot of thoughts running through his head at once and intertwining together, but the overall theme is that he feels a sense of freedom in both these acts.
I very much agree with this and discussed a similar idea in my most. The simultaneity that exists in the above sentence is clear, and is one of the more interesting sentences in the paper.
I agree with you that Reiko and lieutenant had S&M relationship, because she didn’t want to disobay her husband. It is not clear did she like it or she simply accepted to satisfy him.
I agree that the first part of the sentence, even though short and simple, tells a lot about Reiko. She is your typical traditional wife that is very loyal and obedient to her husband. I didn’t think much about the “coat” when I read through, so I think it is interesting that it could be a reference to Reiko’s feelings.
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I like your choice of scene to show simultaneity in the story. There were definitely a lot of conflicting emotions going through the character’s minds, such as the passion and death that you pointed it. The Lieutenant has a lot of thoughts running through his head at once and intertwining together, but the overall theme is that he feels a sense of freedom in both these acts.
Sandy, it is amazing how the last thing the Lieutenant, and Reiko did together was to make love to one another. Do you think there is a correlation or a possibly theme associated with love and death in which Mishima is trying to portray?
Joshua, I completely agree that this represents simultaneity. I think that the whole aspect of their marriage represents simultaneity, as she seems to follow along in exactly what her husband does, namely by joining him in dying and by serving as a martyr for his cause.
Yup, it’s quite pretentious to me that they want to show people that they are patriotic enough to kill themselves. And I feel like the author is over glorifying their suicides.
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I totally agree with this foreshadowing comment and the acceptance of Reiko’s duty as his wife. I wrote about something similar as the whole theme of the story. There are so many references found throughout this story that foster this idea of a subservient relationship between Reiko and her husband. Many of these references help us as readers determine the character of Reiko.
I very much agree with this and discussed a similar idea in my most. The simultaneity that exists in the above sentence is clear, and is one of the more interesting sentences in the paper.
I totally agree with your interpretation of this quotation. I also thought right away that she almost awaited this day and knew that this was a part of her fate as a lieutenants wife.
I agree that the first part of the sentence, even though short and simple, tells a lot about Reiko. She is your typical traditional wife that is very loyal and obedient to her husband. I didn’t think much about the “coat” when I read through, so I think it is interesting that it could be a reference to Reiko’s feelings.
Reiko’s decision to follow in her husband’s footsteps definitely represents the idea of simultaneity. This passage also depicts how much she actually loves him considering the sacrifice she is willing to make.
I also was very confused with the situation of her having to kill herself upon her husbands death. It also was shocking to read that they were not married for very long either which shows extreme honor and dedication to her husband as she prepared herself for this death as well as her own quickly.
I agree with you that Reiko and lieutenant had S&M relationship, because she didn’t want to disobay her husband. It is not clear did she like it or she simply accepted to satisfy him.
Kendra, I agree with you here that the lieutenant’s wife was preparing herself for her husbands death by expecting anything could happen at any moment. Personally I dont see why she would need to kill herself too if her husband dies, I feel that it’s taking it too far and by killing herself in a way is not really accepting his death.
Although this paragraph does show the societal duties of women towards their husband, it also shows the strength and pride that Reiko takes in her position as his wife. Her action of taking the knife shows her dedication to her husband. And the silent understanding afterwords shows the mutual respect and trust between them both. Shinji’s forewarning to his wife about the possibility of suicide also has a caring undertone to it. He wants to give her the chance to be prepared and prove herself; which she does.
I agree that women in that generations were taught to be submissive and once they marry they are like the husband’s property. It is also sad that they were only married for such a short time and she is willing to die with him.
-Sandy
This moment was very impressive description of Reiko’s feeling and operation. It is difficult thing to help her lover to finish the suicide. Meanwhile, the passage portarys lieutenant’s determination to suicide.