Monthly Archives: March 2015

Leading Discussion

Book 16 Lines 333-337

“The two of them met, the herald and the noble swineherd, going by reason of the same message, to report to the lady. But when they had come to the house of the sacred king, the herald stood in the midst of the serving maids and delivered his message: ‘Now, O queen, your beloved son is back in this country’.”

Odysseus and Telemachos are planning a surprise attack to take back their kingdom and get rid of the suitors. My question is, if you’re going to take them by surprise, why would you announce to your enemies your return? And why do you need two people to relay the same message?

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Leading Discussion 17-20 (Odyssey)

“And yet Athene would not altogether permit the arrogant suitors to keep from heart-hurting outrage, so to make greater the anguish in the heart of Odysseus, son of Laertes. There was a man among the suitors versed in villainy; Ktesippos was his name, and he had his home in Same. He

In this quote, Athene wants the suitors to tease Odysseus so he’ll get all worked up in anger. My question is why does Athene want to get Odysseus angry if she was the one who helped him transform into a beggar?

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Assignment Due 3/29.

In The Odyssey of Homer, there are several scenes where characters disguise themselves in the books. Towards the end of book 13, Athene tells Odysseus that she will make him look like a beggar so that no one can recognize him, “but come now, let me make you so no moral can recognize you. For I will wither the handsome flesh that is on your flexible limbs, and ruin the brown hair on your head, and about you put on such a clout of cloth any man will load the when he sees you wearing it; I will dim those eyes, that have been so handsome, so you will be unprepossessing to all the suitors…” (396-404). In book 14, when Odysseus arrives at swineherd’s home disguised as a beggar, he is treated very kindly by Eumaios who opens up to him and about Odysseus leaving to fight in Troy thinking that he is dead. Odysseus still disguised as a beggar tells Eumaios that Odysseus is not dead, that he will come back. Eumaios doesn’t really believe him but it brings him hope about Odysseus coming back. He then brings the beggar more food and wants to treat him the best he can. Odysseus is touched how kindly Eumaios treats him.

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More Guidance for Close Reading

A link to the writing center:

http://writingcenter.baruch.cuny.edu/

We’ll be talking about these briefly in class, but here are a couple handouts to help you in completing your close readings. Look at these (closely)!

Here’s a list of potential ways to tackle your close reading. Remember – this is NOT a checklist! Do not do everything on this list, that will end up in a shallow analysis. Rather, go in depth with one or two of these things:

Close Reading Tips

Here’s something I wrote based on errors / issues I’ve seen in the past. Take a look!

how to write a close reading

And two sites with information on literary devices:

Information about / Definition of “metaphor”

Other literary devices

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Discussion Leader Assignment – The Odyssey of Homer Books 9-12

The quote I’d like to discuss is the following:

… He made his dwelling among the trees of the sacred grove of Phoibos Apollo, and he gave me glorious presents. He gave me seven talents of well-wrought gold, and he gave me a mixing bowl made all of silver, and gave along with it wine, drawing it off the storing jars, twelve in all. (Lattimore 142; lines 200-205)

This part of the book is talking about a gift that was given to Odysseus because he save the life of Maron and his family and how Odysseus and his companions were drinking wine. My question is: what does the seven talents really mean? I feel that there is a different meaning to “seven talents.”

 

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The Odyssey Books 9-12

“Hear me, Poseidon who circle the earth, dark-haired. If truly I am your son, and you acknowledge yourself as my father, grant that Odysseus, sacker of cities, son of Laertes, who makes his home in Ithaka, may never reach that home; but if it is decided that he shall see his own people, and come home to his strong-founded house and to his own country, let him come late, in bad case, with the loss of all his companions, in someone else’s ship, and find troubles in his household.” (9.528-535)

The quote is talking about Polyphemos praying to his father Poseidon to curse Odyesseus for what he has done to him by giving him troubles returning back home to Ithaka. It seems like from Odyesseus revealing his name to Polyphemos that he was bound to suffer at sea. My question would be that why would Odysseus reveal his name to Polyphemos?

 

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Jacobean Era and Hemlock Grove

I’ve thought of many shows that are on TV today, but most of them were already talked about on previous posts by my fellow classmates. However, I did find one show that I used to watch late 2014. The show is a Netflix series called “Hemlock Grove.”

Hemlock Grove is a Netflix Series that takes place in a fictional town in Pennsylvania. The people living in town ranged on all social classes, from the richest family to the poorest family. The TV series have certain characteristics of Jacobean theater; such as, secrets, promiscuity, abuse, killings, incest, and mainly demonic I’d say. The show started when police were investigating a murder of a high school cheerleader who was brutally murdered. The main suspects are two guys. One guy who is a ware-wolf and another guy who comes from high social class. However, they decided to investigate the case themselves. This let them to discover many secrets the town had hidden.

Acts 4 and 5 of the Dutchess of Malfi reminded me in some sort way of this show, where all the violence started, executions, etc.

RED BAND trailer below.

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More Passage Options for your Close Reading

Here are some more passage options to consider for your close readings. Remember, you can also do a passage of your choosing – just run it by me first!

Oresteia: There are a few options for The Oresteia included on the assignment sheet, so I haven’t added more here.

Duchess:

1. Any of Bosola’s monologues are an option! (For instance, Bosola’s speech at the end of Act 4 or his speech at the end of Act 5, scene 2)

2. Any or all of the Duchess’s speech/convo with the Executioner in Act IV, scene 2, lines 201-224

3. Ferdinand’s speech, act IV, scene 2, lines 258-277

4. Ferdinand’s speech, Act 3, scene 2, lines 88-109

The Odyssey: 

-Any or all of the opening lines (lines 1-25) of the book.

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Guidelines for MLA Style

For this paper you do not need a Works Cited page. You just need to know how to properly do in-text citations and the correct way to format your paper. Do not use any block quotes in your papers. In other words, keep all of the quotes within your paper under 3 lines.

Some Important Rules:

*All titles must be in italics!

*Remember to show where line breaks fall (in The Odyssey, The Duchess, and The Oresteia) with slash marks

*Paper formatting: Paper must be in 12-point Times New Roman font with 1-inch margins all around (check your margins!) 

Here are the basics for in-text citation

How to cite Shakespeare (same rules/format apply to The Duchess)

A really helpful website on how to use quotes and properly cite (you can ignore all the info concerning how to write a Works Cited page)

How to cite The Odyssey

The Odyssey should be cited in-text simply by indicating book and line number, as for example (4.227-9). This means book 4 lines 227 through 229. You only need to add further information if it is not clear what is being cited. For example, if you are comparing passages from the Iliad and the Odyssey, you might cite the texts as (Iliad 3.28-30) or (Odyssey 5.67-70).

How to cite The Oresteia:

Cite by line number — i.e. if you’re looking at a section that goes from lines 15 through 25 you would cite like this “line line line” (15-25).

 

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Discussion Leader – The Odyssey Books 1-4

I’d chosen the quote from Zeus from the first from Book I line 32-43:

Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame upon us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given, as now lately, beyond what was given, Aigisthos married the wife of Atreus’ son, and murdered him on his homecoming, though he knew it was sheer destruction, for we ourselves had told him, sending Hermes, the mighty water, Argeiphontes, not to kill the man, nor court his lady for marriage; for vengence would come on him from Orestes, son of Atreides, whenever he came of age and longed for his own country.

I see this as a foreshadowing of what is to come for the suitors; death. But who is the one to kill them, Telemachos or Odysseus? In the quote Zeus was referring to Orestes, the son who killed, but in the Odyssey, it’s Odysseus who was the one more wronged and is still alive to take his own vengeance. Another question is why do you think there is so much reference to Orestes?

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